Punk vs Metal Question 2 out of 29 Do you always wear black? Home Forums > Discussions > Music Corner > METAL vs PUNK. Metal is the Blues...in Technicolor. Do these bands But Punk gets labeled 'stark' or 'minimalist'. different parts of these songs. Should these bands be considered as innovators in a separate realm? And I don't even _like_ metal (in general). I second (or eighth) the omigodyougottahearthis rave for Gorguts' metal fans who swear they can understand the lyrics, and there 5 years ago. It is generally faster, harder, and more aggressive than other forms of punk rock. years later when they know exactly what's pissing them off, the Punk Vs. Metal Tab by Charlie Parra Del Riego with free online tab player. And they sounded different because they had a Punk pedigree (Guns'n'Roses is made of two other bands, one a Glam Rock band, the other a Hardcore Punk band; Metallica's James Hetfield is a vocal supporter of many LA punk bands, especially the Misfits.) Heavy Metal vs Punk. ), sorry. "Why don't you Metalhead dweebs Too drunk I could go on and on for 10 more pages about how the Punk avoided the major label wankfest of the Metalhead 80s by forming their own record labels and their own distribution net....and how this mixture of boundless freedom and crushing responsibility also changed the sound of the music. kris, to go back to my lyrics question, then, are lyrics completely Folks that diss Metal dispise the musics lack of a moral center: it's all sex,drugs and rock'n'roll. What's the difference between modern doom metal and dark ambient noise? Psychedelic Furs, Siouxsie and the Banshees)**. Summoning "Minas Morgul" or "Dol Guldur" (the later albums have their moments but have some weak material). Black metal is a lot more lyrically varied, some bands sing about paganism, some sing about the Vikings, some about the forests, some about hobbits, etc. In this game you can test them all. irrelevant to most fans of death metal then? Punk went ultra-exclusively in the other direction. Why does your analysis of metal stop in 1984? not frontpeople in the typical sense; they're generally Perhaps the development of Metal is finally "complete" and it will get the status of jazz or folk or rock 'n roll or drum 'n bass, where the major innovations are already behind us and the genre is kept alive merely on behalf of "curators" rather than that it attracts innovators. It allows entry to people that have a large amount of one musical talent but little of another. Average Speed Metal song length: 7'11".) inexperienced to know what they're angry about. the adults don't, etc. Both genres take heavy influence from each other, so it’s often hard to tell the difference with modern bands. lyrics; part of the problem is that due to the highly percussive, Conversely, whereas European Metal is very brutal and dark, European Punk passes for (twisted but still) radio friendly semi-pop. This is why many ― John Darnielle, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link, ― A Nairn, Wednesday, 15 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link. confessed to numerous "Heavy Metal" inspired slayings. One of the biggest differences between punk and metal lies in technique. What are some good recordings of i am instrumental complexity) or culturally (crustier looking, artsier Advertisement. In fact, the 90s is largely built on the innovations of the "college rock"/"indie" musics made by bands that built entire careers on exploring those ideas first opened up by Punkers (and "proto"-punkers like the Modern Lovers or the Velvet Underground.). theme is simply that the whole genre pretty much promotes a This created a lot of laughably pretentious double albums...but little good music. Maybe you're more metal. like fucking FedEx. Renews automatically. Theres a couple doctorate degrees floating around in there, too. I'm glad they got rid of the 80s poodle rockers, but if we get me of the punxploitation thread from awhile back. sexless, juvenile atavism -- a boys will be boys aesthetic that is I don't think that one is really that much better than the other when you take the best of each genre. Siegbran I am floored and amazed... this is a whole universe of music More evidence that Custos syncopated structure of death metal, there really isn't much room BIRTH OF MONSTERS www.facebook.com/BOMpunkband. rules!" If you asked me "punk vs metal", I would say punk. added Rorschach (2) / Operation Mindfuck - Rorschach / Operation Mindfuck to their wantlist. Thats sounds about right, Dave. But it all really boils down to the final goal of these two most anti-social of Western Musics: June 9, 2011 5.0 out of 5 stars 1 rating. 1 decade ago. I know metal and punk are sort of related especially in the 80s with thrash bands and and crossover bands like Slayer who were both metal and punk. I'd be interested what you think of it. Ryan. While the kids get along much better these days, punk and metal fans hated each other with a fiery passion in the '70s and '80s, and some of that mutual animosity still lingers today. After a few years of tangling with German drones and Avant Garde ideas, a faction of Punkers began building gloomy cathedrals of sound. ), Nope. nameless darkness in their songs. Fun. parts: 29 jenn . Duty now for the fun-free future! ;-). What if Gorguts had, instead of consolidating with "From Wisdom To Hate", added even more layers on top of the chaos? 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The infamous 'Son of Chuck' was for traditional vocals. Also try the songs "Angbans Schmieden" and "Dagor Bragollach". on some level. Charlie Parra Punk vs Metal. idea. ** all the groundbreaking European Pop of the Late-80s (U2, The Cure, Graveland "Thousand Swords", "Following The Voice Of Blood" or "Immortal Pride". ― mark s, Saturday, 18 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link, ― Douglas, Sunday, 19 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link, ― Dario, Friday, 13 January 2006 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link, ― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 25 February 2007 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link, ― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 25 February 2007 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link, "Punk Rock? Metal fans see punk and hardcore as diluting the purity or integrity of metal, except for in cases of crust punk and grindcore. Experimenting with the boundaries of distortion/aesthetics, but one at the rediculously fast & complex/rigid end, and the other at the rediculously slow and psychedelic/morphing end. And I love how technical metal is and has more advance guitar playing most of the time. So to summarize, many Punkers are bad or unexceptional (yet weirdly compelling singers), while Metal singers are aggressively irksome. I hate all that Heavy Metal Hard Rock Junk. Scores of punkers like metal and vice versa. Summoning, if I'm not mistaken, are sort of gothic, incantory doom not far from Godspeed You Black Emperor, right? This isn’t about which one is better, I personally prefer metal but like both, but it’s to speak strictly about the objective differences between the two. There are death Maybe you're more metal. 2 1. dman63. towards either punk or metal. :-), Well, for one Chuck Eddy writes in English. Even the continued existence of Metal owes a debt to Punk. It is my personal preference. I think part of the death/dismemberment The chronological progression line in Metal as far as major purely musical innovations go would be somewhat like Black Sabbath (1969), Judas Priest (1976), Iron Maiden (1979), Slayer (1982), Hellhammer/Celtic Frost (1984), Bathory (1985), Sodom (1985), Terrorizer (1985), Napalm Death (1985), Death (1985), Morbid Angel (1986), Sarcofago (1987), Suffocation (1989), Paradise Lost (1990), Darkthrone (1991), Immortal (1991), Burzum (1991), Cryptopsy (1995), Graveland (1995), Summoning (1996), Gorguts (1998). Hardcore punk (often abbreviated to hardcore) is a punk rock music genre and subculture that originated in the late 1970s. (the intro of "Dol Guldur" for example). Punk and metal have always had a weird, sometimes difficult relationship. (sorry, I Hence, while some of the American Hardcore Punk bands transformed over time until Metal, all the groundbreaking European Pop of the Late-80s (U2, The Cure, Psychedelic Furs, Siouxsie and the Banshees) were bands that started out as Punks. has more than its fair share of high school drop-outs in the bands. The attitude towards sex strikes me as wildly different as well. Both appeal to young musical 'thrillseekers', those looking for a way of life typified by raw energy and extreme viewpoints. instrumentalists who are able to grunt along while playing their But, believe you me, theres as much distance between Metal and Punk as there is between Metal and Country and Western. It was originally used as a catch-all for the music that emerged after punk rock, including punk itself, but may be viewed retrospectively as a more accessible counterpart of post-punk. Intermediate Metal 1 Track. Especially the shows, there is no better feeling than cramming a couple hundred people into a small venue and just living in the music for a couple hours. It's one of those "what next?" This also spotlights another important difference. All in all, the amount of classically trained musicians in metal is indicative of the tendency to produce bands that "say it with the music" more than the punk way of treating music as a tool to get the (political/nihilist) message across. And that was four, five years ago. nation has always been a strange one, with its own rules; the (Oops. Another thing Metal took from Punk. Or rather, what makes them not metal? Sort of a more punishing type of no-wave.) reason I thank them all. Because of this disgust for needless cruft and circumlocution, Punk songs contain more "open space" and less length. Punk is garage rockabilly played by anarchists (but with a Rasta Reggae tinge to the bass). Should these bands be considered as innovators in a separate realm? Punk vs. Metal. So, Sabbath all the way. i know less   |  Short Are they into RIO or U Totem-style prog bands? And at the best of times, I think both succeded. Early Metalheads strived to master the 12-bar, 6-Chord Blues Masters of the Mississippi Delta (sometimes, with a modicum of genuine respect. What if Ildjarn had spawned even more extreme bands in that bizarre "Tangerine Dream synth drones & crust BM" direction? lookout) fit into all this? The fusion often involves extreme metal genres and hardcore punk . Extreme repetition of medieval themes on synthetic orchestras with the guitars only as a layered buzzsaw texture underneath and huge "larger than life" thundering resounding-through-the-mountains percussion and vocals. where the jocks and the freaks were fighting "punk is junk! Punk (Old School 1970-1990) Punk cares little about what metal dose but metal has been ripping off Punk, Glam, and Goth fashion since the late 1970s. Ick! Perhaps you're a hybrid? I'd been unaware of until this moment and you brought the knowledge between the lyrics and the clearly-well-planned music? Well, not exactly. And thrash metal is a mix of British heavy metal and hardcore punk. Although there are lots of "could've been" scenarios: what if Burzum had spawned a whole new "ambient/drone metal" genre? Recommended by The Wall Street Journal From the acid addled Julian Cope to the menacingly bloozy Nick Cave. Summoning, if I'm not mistaken, are sort of gothic, incantory doom not far from Godspeed You Black Emperor, right? becoming a hopeless drag. while in punk rock, its amped up, fast, rock n roll. Difficult to say, indeed. Death "Individual Thought Patterns" - their most technical and 'freaky' sounding album, this is not dissonant or especially "brutal" yet the loose feeling and excellent songwriting makes this very interesting. Between Siegbran, Kris and John Darnielle I've learned more about Punk is more often political with sharper commentary that Metal. 3 months ago added At The Gates - To Drink From The Night Itself to their wantlist. killed each other over anything Chuck Eddy has said. probably wrong about this; is there a more sensible connection quizony.com Â© . politics or jelly beans? too far away from "fun" of some kind, the music could end up Which is what probably saves metal from disappearing into its own pretentious arse a la progrock. piece of rock music. I assume there have been no musical leaps since then? _Obscura_. The metal Which created a lot of laughably pretentious people...but very few decent poets. The epic Battle between Punk and Metal continues...Soon to be in PRINT and ONLINE every time we feel like it or YOUR MONEY BACK. Probably writing in Crayon. I probably should've included them, or perhaps Winter or Thergothon in the list for this doom/sludge psychedelic-distortion-orgy genre. to fuck isn't intellectual but it is something many of us have Because of their lack of formal training, most of the Punkers started out sounding either primitive or rather Avant Garde. It has more diversity, and a lot of my favorite metal bands have a punk influence. probably on some level analogous to Oi, except far less Metal and punk rock created highly amplified music with power chords and anti-establishment lyrics. Charlie Parra has had over 33 million view on his YouTube channel alone and his boxset of jam tracks including Speed F*cks, Rocanrol Psycho and Punk vs Metal, all taken from his album Procrastination, accounts for over 3 million of those views! i also am in awe of the information bulk on this thread. Also, Metal requires at least 4 members (drummer, lead guitar, rhythm guitar and a bassist) whereas Punk suggests a "power trio" (preferably a drummer and a bassist plus at least one other instrument.) Metal - generally speaking is, like most other forms of music, the whole thing - lyrics, rhythm, structure, changes - everything that most other forms of music contain. Find out for sure with this quiz! What's the difference between modern doom metal and dark ambient noise? political offshoots of death metal, such as grindcore (Napalm "Skullfucking Armageddon" obviously appeals more to the drunk blokes at gigs than to the armchair analyst trying to find meaning in lyrics. stories, Home  |  Advertise  |  Contact  |  About  |  Privacy Policy  |  Cookie Policy. All Rights Reserved. Metal derides punk for being unskilled, simplistic, and political. These were GROUNDBREAKING POP??????? its all about surfing! Ultradisk version of Kix's Hot Wire; The killer Music is an expression of attitude and emotions of the artist and has served as a reflection of the times especially in the case of grunge, punk, and metal music. Average Punk song length: 2'10" in length. There are certainly harder. This stubborn simplicity has an upside. ― Dr. C, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link, ― Bluegerm, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link, ― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link, ― Siegbran Hetteson, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link, ― dave k, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link, ― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link. Case in point: Iron Maidens 2-3 "history lessons" and literature themed songs on every album (Rime of the Ancient Mariner), the Edgar A. Poe, Lovecraft and William Blake themes in the last 20 years, the Nietzschean anti-Judeochristian-values themes in modern metal ("Grand Declaration of War", "Destroyer: Or How To Philosophize With The Hammer", bands with names like Zarathustra), the return to pre-christian folk melodies and imagery (pompously Wagnerized or not). It seems that metal (unlike punk/hardcore/nu-metal) has an odd aversion against mundane and personal topics, either dealing with "heavy" occult/historical/philosophical themes, or going completely over the top with profanity, blasphemy and gore. Of course there are exceptions to every rule. This was the roots of "Goth" music. Best of it all is the strange 'looseness' with which everything is played. Or do they have atonal Its all greasy guys yelling about Satan and how much money they have....", OK, who's going to be the first to bring up Motorhead? ); Punkers chant, mutter or bark accusations. almost formal element of the genre; you sing many-syllable synonyms Maybe you're more punk. packaging). This would also be quite subjective. The kids like it because Short 0 0. $0.99 Get a special offer and listen to over 60 million songs, anywhere with Amazon Music Unlimited. On a big label, i.e. Punk is garage rockabilly played by anarchists (but with a Rasta Reggae tinge to the bass). situations. -vs- "uh, er, no way man, punk. I can't think of any Punker who tries the operatic shriek, and I've never heard any Metalheads mumble all the lyrics in a monotone. either structurally (shorter songs, much less emphasis on This test is not based on any scientific study whatsoever. The entire New Wave pop movement grew in the ashes of the Punk. are death metal bands who don't even have lyrics. Punk vs Metal. i've come to think about something, theres punk, which isnt necessarily music, its a lifestyle. Both approaches can work and produce very interesting music as well as some horrible crap (Manowars orgy of warrior/pledge-your-allegiance/barbarians/swords & sorcery silliness, or the scores of corporations-are-evil/veganist/fuck-everything militant slogan-touting punk bands). sought to do away with the frivolities introduced in the later years of the original punk movement. are there bands that, All tension, no release. metal This is a band that essentially plays medieval/tolkien spirited soundtrack pieces on synth (no money for a real orchestra) with echoing screamed vocals and a stream of distorted guitars underneath. Well, I don't think completely abandoning "fun" as a goal is a wise In a way this is strange, as the two styles share many influences and are both loud, extreme forms of rock music. I basically And Napalm Death/grindcore did come out of the political crust scene -- Discharge, Chaos UK, et al. Its no mystery why metal fans are hostile to metalcore and the new "pop-mosh" styles like A Day to Remember or AttackAttack. What kinds of tunings do they use? In my experience at least, there's a certain undercurrent of people within metal fandom who have gotten this weird idea that you can't like any style of music other than metal and be a TRVE METALHEAD. Death metal is, by its nature, pretty much Please be as technical as possible. By continuing, you agree to Quizony's Privacy Policy and Cookie use. Sort Vokter "Folkloric Necro Metal" or Ildjarn "Strength And Anger" - same band, it's got these fuzzy ultra-simplistic 2-chord riffs under weird space synths straight out of Klaus Schultze's basement. Where do you place the shedding of the blues legacy that took place after the speed/thrash wave of the early 80s - the move towards atonality and chromatic scales, syncopated riffs and tempi, the turn to classical and folk structures, themes and melodies instead of the established pentatonics and the classic verse-chorus-solo-verse rock structures, and the voice-as-distorted-instrument, developments that started with Slayer and Terrorizer, through Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Gorguts et al? It also has a better ideology. TempePunk.com & Soundphoria present:. underway in other genres, too. Both are still available, the Darkthrone is recently reissued I believe. Punk metal fuses elements of heavy metal music with punk rock. dissonant chords? Questions. What Gorguts do in terms of atonality/dissonance is probably best explained by themselves - Guitar.com had a feature on them with downloadable guitar lesson videoclip where the guitarist and bassist explain what their approach to songwriting is, it's here: http://www.guitar.com/features/viewfeature.asp?featureID=2, Actually, the Gorguts feature on Guitar.com is. Charlie Parra Del RiegoPunk vs Metal℗ 2011 Flatdajel RecordsReleased on: 2011-06-09Auto-generated by YouTube. Great stuff, basically folk melodies in epic Wagnerized structures, played by a band that overflows with hatred against everyone and everything (they're blatant nazis too...). Metal 112 vote(s) 44.8% Punk … On a certain level, the only thing that makes these bands "metal" at all is their song titles and their record labels, correct? This might not be easy to find... Darkthrone "Transilvanian Hunger" - review here and Burzum "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" - review But indeed, it's not as if metal doesn't have its share of ludicrous vapidity. Iron Maiden drew influence from punk in the late 70s, Venom plundered Motorheads material, Slayer took their influence from the hardcore bands from the early 80s, Napalm Death came from the crustcore scene. What do you mean by this? Lv 7. Metallica was interesting in their use of solid songwriting and highly melodic themes within the context of the speed metal wave of 1981-84, the one that spawned Anthrax/Testament/Megadeth/etc and the Sodom/Kreator/Destruction triumvirate in Germany. Poked out and eye RFI re "atonality" in modern non-mainstream metal. Hardcore punk, street punk and Oi! Scrap Metal 2 is a 3D car driving game featuring 6 classic race cars: a Dodge Challenger, a Chevrolet Camaro, an Audi S3, a Subaru Imprezza, a Nissan GT, a Ferrari 250 GTO V12 from 1962, and a Lamborgini Huracan. inhabits a parallel universe. Rhythm of Cruelty: Musical Technique. The whole genre is certainly a punk/metal hybrid. Log in or Sign up. On their latest album they've got this huge spectacle piece "Farewell" (for the downloaders, 6:58) where they wheel everything out but the kitchen sink, choirs and all, HUGE thundering production - with the guitars somewhere in the back as a wall of background distortion. Maybe you're more punk. Probably also just to signify what is and isn't metal, captured last night after beating a hippee to death with a Gold "; Punkers are more even-handed with women. Hence, Punk Rock is littered with witty showmen with great lyrics...and terrible singing voices or primitive guitar playing. With the exception of Ozzy Osbourne, Robert Plant and Axl Rose (and Roger Daltrey and Freddy Mercury if you consider them to be Metal enough) all the Metalhead Frontmen are generally same-old same-old. Punk vs Metal. ASSWIPE JUNKIES www.facebook.com/Ass-Wipe-Junkies-964643593665463. Seems like the process of "abandoning the 'fun' factor" is well ), not to mention Sick of it All, and later Metal bands like Entombed went punk, Machine Head plundered the 80s thrash riffs in 1994, bands like Slipknot redid Pantera's trick again, this time adding late 80s Death Metal tempi into their mix of Pantera/Machine Head hardcore-based moshcore. actually write songs with no tonal centre? Similarly, punk bands were influenced by metal: DRI was influenced by the speed/thrash bands, Pantera even went as far as calling their hardcore-based moshcore "metal" (but fooled only the 15-and-under age demographic - see the connection with nu-metal? Wondering whether you're metal or punk? Punk vs Metal. Boys like drawing skulls. Also, probably the first to introduce Autechre-like soundscapes in metal? And even the ones who can't sing that well, make themselves clearly understood...and they are easy and fun to imitate. recent metal than I could have found out on my own, and for that rules just seem to be getting progressively weirder and more But it reminds Its as if the band went out and deliberately looked for the most interesting lyric-writing malcontent on their block. Metals holy grail is a fun, blues-based form of Wagnerian Opera that you could drunkenly play air guitar to; Punks goal is something more grandiose: A rootsy, reggae-ish protest music that bows to no authority figures. Metalheads bellow and shriek (side note: Michael Bolton started out as a Metalhead. It's just a bunch of slashing, dissonant, syncopated riffs (I'm not sure if atonal is really the right term, but there doesn't appear to be a harmonic center, and no tonic resolution at all. Me. 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